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Chicago, IL — News of disenfranchisement was brought to the attention of the Logo cable network's popular reality TV personalities, Jacob and Joshua Miller. The LGBT cable network stars of Jacob and Joshua: Nemesis Rising were informed December 20, 2006, that a recent meeting held by their hometown Kalispell, Montana Jehovah's Witnesses chapter had announced their official "disfellowship," or excommunication, from the faith.

"According to Jehovah's Witness doctrine, being 'disfellowshipped' means that we have been found guilty of unrepentant gross misconduct. Our immediate family is to have limited or no contact with us. All other practicing Jehovah's Witnesses around the world are to never speak with us again," the Miller brothers say of the decision.

The decision to proscribe the brothers came based on their "homosexuality and involvement in their realty show."

The Miller brothers add, "We find it ironic that a religion whose members are asked to knock on the doors of strangers with a message of acceptance of paradise on Earth will not accept two of its own children for who they really are. Our wish for them is one of tolerance and understanding and we send to them a message of peace and love."

Jacob and Joshua: Nemesis Rising airs Monday nights on Logo, and follows the gay identical twins in Los Angeles trying to become stars in the pop music industry.


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Carla on Friday, 8/31/2007

Do you have sex with each other?




gabriela on Friday, 9/28/2007

i was a jehova witness and i got disfellowshipped for having sex i think thats dumd but oh well i hate that religion




ANA on Monday, 10/1/2007

I WAS A JEHOVA WITNESSS SINCE TTHE AGE OF 3 I WAS RAISE AND THEN I MET A GUY WHO I FELT IN LOVE WITH BUT ONE OF MY SUPPOSBLY FRIEND TOLD ON ME AND I CONFESE THAT I HAD SEX WITH HIM I GOT DISFELLOWSHIPPED AND THE BROTHERS MAD STUPID COMMENTS THAT MY BOYFRIEND WOULD NEVER CHANGE. I STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ANNOUNCED UNTIL THIS FRIDAY BUT THEY SAID NOBODY KNOWS BUT THEIR WIFES HAVE IGNORE ME. I THOUGHT THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO KEEP THAT IN THE LOW. THEIR A FAKE RELIGION INSTEAD OF HELPING YOU THEY MAKE IT SEEM TO THAT PERSON ITS A HIT IT AND QUIT THING. THEY MAKE THE PERSON FEEL CRUMMY BY LETTING THE CHURCH KNOW THATS REALLY DISRESPECTFUL. THERE IS ALOT OF TWO FACES IN THEIR, BUT DON'T WORRY YOU GUYS ARE CLEAN KNOW AND YOUR CONCIENCE IS FINE. WE HAVE NOTHING TO HID SO THE CONGREGAION DOESN'T TALK TO US IT'S OK. ONLY GOD COULD JUDGE US WERE NOT PERFECT BEING GAY IS NATRUAL AS LONG YOU GUYS ARE HAPPY.




true comment on Thursday, 2/7/2008

The tent isnt to make you not come back but to change your ways,just like a parent that has laws and rules to fellow and we are punished for our bad ways,its the same differance.




not a JW!! on Wednesday, 3/5/2008

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE A CULT!!!!!! THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT A RELIGION IN ANY WAY.




LaTina Kaigler on Saturday, 4/5/2008

Jehovah Witnesses are not a cult and nothing like it. We're people who follow the rules of the bible and if Jehovah God say no fornication than as simple as that NO FORNICATION!!! You being attracted to the same sex isnt the sin. Having sex with the same sex is the sin. YALL NEED TO REPENT AND YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN. Hate us if that makes you sleep at night but it the truth and we will make it known




Steve J on Wednesday, 4/9/2008

It's amazing how a lack of correct information will make people come to wrong conclusions. The fact is this: the only people that are disfellowshipped as Jehovah's Witnesses are ones who have WILLINGLY chosen to get baptized as such. No one is made to do this, and it is not a meaningless ceremony done to babies. In fact, each person who chooses to be baptized is questioned so as to see that they are in agreement with the scriptual guidelines that Jesus and the Apostles laid out in regards to morality and dedication to Jehovah God. I feel badly for these two guys as I do for anyone who has been disfellowshipped. But the fact is, for this to of happened, they must of went through the act of dedication to Jehovah and baptism. They must of had some inclination that they didn't want to live their lives according to Bible standards at the time of their baptism. If they had not been baptized, no announcement would ever have been made. Oh, and LaTina who posted above, I think your heart's in the right place, but "Yall need to repent and you will be forgiven" is a little untactful and is not going to soften many hearts.




Serious Derious Bagelt on Monday, 5/5/2008

Steven J, you bring up some very good points. I have one question, is it strictly the Bible standards or the standards explicitly written the Watchtower publication that Jehovah's Witnesses must adhere to?




Melissa on Tuesday, 5/13/2008

The Bible clearly states that relations with the same sex is a sin. This isn't a church being discriminatory, it's not religion being discriminatory, this is God's own words. You can't be a true Christian and be gay, just as you can't be a true Christian and be a female preacher. It's just not Biblical--the qualifications for preaching according to 1Tim3, refers to a MAN, not a woman. Also keep in mind the JW's are taught only what their elders tell them is "the truth". And for you JWs who are reading this--remember this: God is UNCHANGING.. His LIGHT NEVER CHANGES... I hear many times in my reverse witnessing attempts that "the light is shining brighter as the time gets closer". I don't recall the verse off-hand, but the Devil presents himself as the light. Only the Devil will change his light as the times grow nearer b/c, as I mentioned above, God is UNCHANGING.. therefore the light you see that "is getting brighter" can not possibly be God.

God is love. JWs cannot deny that. However, disfellowshipping in their way is NOT love. Even Peter (or was it Paul?), who told his brethren to not eat with the brothers who were comitting sins, did not stop loving them, did not stop associating with them. He instructed his brethren to continue to preach to them as if they did not know God. He did not ostracize former members of the congregation.

Remember why Jesus taught in parables? "so those who see, can not see, and those who hear would not hear" ... I challenge any JW to sit and read the Bible, WITHOUT publications to guide their thoughts. It is the Holy Spirit who imparts wisdom, not the WTS, and you will feel the Spirit when you set aside the religious propaganda and think for yourself (in religious terms). God gave us the gift of freewill for a reason--so that we would choose to see his words for what they are.




guest on Wednesday, 5/21/2008

Thank you STEVE J for clarifying to these people the truth . If anyone wants to know to truth ASK!! a JW DON'T ASSUME things!
They don't make you do anything it is totally up to the person!




Tinki08 on Tuesday, 6/3/2008

I AM NOT A JW BUT I RECIVE BIBLE STUDIES.IM 18 YRS OLD AND I HAVE MADE SO MANY MISTAKES AND I DONE THINGS I SHOULDNT BUT I HAVE REPENTED FROM MY SINS AND I KNOW GOD WILL FORGIVE ME...BECASUE HE READS OUR HEARTS...THE BIBLE IS THERE TO ANSWER ALL OF OUR QUESIONS ITS UP TO US TO PICK IT UP AND READ IT...AND ITS A BIG COMITMENT TO GET BABTIZED AND IF YOUR GOING TO BE HAVING SEX THEN WHY WOULD YOU BECOME A JW IN THE 1ST PLACE...YOUR EITHER HOT OR COLD...YOU CANT BE BOTH..JW ARE THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE RELIGION AND HOPEFULLY I WILL BECOME A SISTER SOON...JUST REMEMBER WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS!!!!!!!!




Trina on Wednesday, 6/4/2008

We read the bible everyday Mellisa, i suggest you get your facts straight before you start assuming otherwise. We would do perfectly fine without our publications. They are merely discussions of what we read in the bible.




Eric on Monday, 6/9/2008

I have a question. How many cults go door to door to share their beliefs worldwide? Did Jim Jones and David Koresh do that? So many people are quick to jump on the bandwagon to say the JW's are a cult, when they don't know the meaning of the word. We live in a world that has tolerated too much and dicipline goes out the door. If all churches stuck to the guidelines of the bible wouldn't we have a true Christian Church? It's about time that there is one church that stands up for the truth! Jehovah's Witnesses. God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve




Jimmie on Wednesday, 6/18/2008

Hey people quit doggin Jehovah and blaming him for your mistakes. The things you did you knew they were wrong and that they went against god's law you are just mad because you got caught, take responsibility for your actions and quit profaning Jehovah's name cause what you do in the dark will come to light.




Angi on Thursday, 7/31/2008

Ok, I am not going to get into the debate. I just have a few questions. For those of you JW's debating with apostates on this thread, doesn't that count as conversation? Isn't talking to us against your religion?
Would your elders be impressed to know that you are arguing with somebody with whom you are supposed to have no contact with?
Just wondering.




SHHH on Sunday, 8/3/2008

I DON'T GO TO THE KINDOM HALLS ANYMORE BUT I USE TO. I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE KINGDOM HALL SINCE I WAS SIX. STOPPED GOING AT AGE 17 AND I STILL BELIEVE IN JEHOVAH. EVERYTIME I'M IN TROUBLE HE'S ALWAYS THERE FOR ME WHEN I PRAY.ITS KINDA CRAZY CUZ I'M KIND OF A BAD BOY.LIKE A TOTAL BADBOY AND YET HE STILL ANWERS MY PRAYERS.I HAVE LIKE MAJOR ISSUES AND SOMEHOW HE ANSWERS MY PRAYER. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SCENCE BUT HE'S ALWAYS THERE FOR ME. I KNOW HE'S THE REAL DEAL EVEN THOUGH I DON'T ATTEND THE SERVICES ANYMORE. BUT I STILL BELIEVE. I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS ABOUT JEHOVAH..HE'S THE REAL DEAL...AND NOT ALL JEHOVAH WITTNESS ARE 2 FACE. SUM ARE THOUGH BUT NOT ALL. THE EAST KINGDOM HALL LOCATED IN MONTEREY PARK CA THERE ARE A LOT OF TWO FACE. JUST GOTTA KNOW WHO YOU CAN TRUST AND THERE ARE SUM YOU CAN TRUST AND WILL OPEN THERE HOME TO YOU. THERE GREAT PEOPLE. I'D TAKE A BULLET FOR THEM. WELL ONLY THE ONES I KNOW AND TRUST WITH MY LIFE. THE DEVILS GOTTEN TO ME ALREADY BUT JEHOVAH STILL THERE.




craig white jr. on Saturday, 8/30/2008

hi my name is craig white im 12 and im not a jw but i do attend the kingdom hall sometimes my mom and her brothers and sisters and her mom were in the truth they were raised in the truth and now my mom does not fully attend the metings although we do go to the memorial and the asembly.jeahovah has really blessed us so much and i thank him for that jeahovAH is our and my refuge i love him dearly but guys lets not get fustrated im not here to deabt but jeahovah does a lot for us he is real the real deal he is amazing he suplies us with a beautiful earth and all of our other needs jeahovah is defenently my savior i love himm so much for him letting me have this twelve years on earth wen im skared i pray to him and evrything clears up jeahovah helps us and me in many ways and if yur gonna talk about him let iiit be in a gud way bcause he does alot for us and the least yu kan do is show sum apreciation




Phil on Wednesday, 9/3/2008

There are plenty of Jehovah's Witnesses who are gay in orientation and who live chaste celibate Christian lives.
The website www.witnesses.plus.com is a resource for such ones and for those interested in the Witnesses' understanding of the Bible's stance on this matter.




roycesd on Thursday, 10/30/2008

i am native american or 'lakota' in our culture lgbt community are looked at as sacred ppl my grandma is a JWs i hate this because she is the only one i have and she don't accept me for who i am..i wish that she would believe in the creater..it was europeans who commited the genocide on native americans and now we are fallowing their religion...she doesn't listen to me i lsten to her in a way i hate JWs but its making me stronger yah if someone has any comments email me at dogger_6661990@yahoo.com




diesel115 on Thursday, 11/6/2008

Hello. There's a lot of controversy around this web page for two reasons. Homosexuality and Religion. Both are two serious issues. Here's where I stand. First off, anyone's sexual preference is their choice. The problem comes in when a person becomes disrespectful toward anothers choice to remain heterosexual. For example, if someone who's gay decides to approach someone of the same sex, who they know is not homosexual, there lies the problem. Live and let live I say. But stay in your zone please. To those who oppose gays, that's their choice, and you should be respectful of their decision, and vice versa. I have gay friends in school. That neither underminds or questions my manhood. I know where I stand. Those with insecurities feel threatened.
One of my sisters is a lesbian, and did'nt grow up that way or nothing. It was a shock to almost everyone. But if she's happy i'm cool with it. I've come a long way though guy's and gal's. I didn't always feel like this. Why? I was raised to reject these people. Which brings me to the other topic. RELIGION. I was raised as one of JW's and we are taught to disagree with one's sexual preference if it does not coincide with the holy bible. Guess what. I eventually grew up and start making my own desicions. These are people you work with, share a neighborhood with, and could be, (like in my situation) your relatives. Check this out. I was baptized at 12 and disfellowshipped at 18. Not because someone said I was having sex before marriage, involved in illegal activity, gay, or anything. I chose not to be apart of an organization that judges everyone not affiliated. Their views on things are screwed up and so are a lot of people that come out of this religion, because of brainwashing. Their non-human philosophy can ruin a life and destroy a family. Take it from someone who has been there. A little kid, 12 y.o. posted a comment on 8-30-08, who reminds me alot of myself when I was his age. My heart goes out to him because one day he'll have to think for himself, and he's heading down the wrong path. It's really sad ya'll. Later.




Me on Wednesday, 12/10/2008

For ALL: Hi I just wanted to briefly say that a lot of you are wrong about JW's I know a lot of them and I have had a bible study in the past for many years and currently attend there Kingdom Hall.
For Diesel115- It's not brain washing and of all people being baptized in the past you should know that JW's do as the bible says the people of the congregation and the magazines and books just support and simplify the bible because it is difficult to read and they also give examples from now days on how we can live our lives as true Christians who follow the bible. There is no brain washing like someone here said God gave us free will and it is up to you to follow God’s way or Satan’s way. Just as he gave Adam and Eve free will and they failed and decided to go with Satan, and because of there mistake they were punished.
Satan is the ruler of this earth right now as we see all of the wars, hatred (as in this blog), adultery, fornication, murders, thief’s. Satan is attacking all day and night we have to be strong. If we are weak he will attack more.
JW’s disfellowship when you don’t repent, honest repent from your heart. As the people above mention that what they did sleep with same sex and fornicate is not wrong, then they never repented and that is why they were punished and as I sadly read what they write above they have still not asked for forgiveness of there sins it seems like they are proud of the sins they committed. They are letting Satan win.
If the JW’s also forgive without repenting like some other religions than we would have a chaotic religion like others and you would also be called two faced. God doesn’t like two-faced people. He is a forgiving God but you have to do your part as well. He forgives and forgives and will keep forgiving but you have to repent and truly mean it. All of these answers are in the bible so lets end this discussion and read your bibles all your questions will be answered there that is why God had the bible created it is a manual for everyone on how to be a good person, how to be a great spouse, how to be a great mom and how to be a great son/daughter, talks about the hard times and talks about what our purpose here is on this earth and why Jehovah God created us and what we have to look forward to in the future. You will all be much Happier & Content living the way God intended us to live. He will give you more satisfaction that Satan’s pleasures: (wars, hatred, adultery, drugs, fornication, murder, theft, and the biggest one is you doubting God).

If you would like to learn more about Jehovah Our Creator or would like a bible please contact your local Kingdom Hall there number is in your area phone books i.e. white/yellow pages. Bible Studies are free.


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